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Raptoir
What? Tupperbox literally has the slang word for tulpa in the name
It was supposedly made by a non-tulpamancer though.
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I doubt that
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tupperbox is very commonly used for rp
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!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/2/2022 8:01 PM
the one thing I dislike about tulpa communities is that I swear nobody can agree with each other
8:01 PM
They all say different things
8:02 PM
I guess the same idea is usually present but a ton of different info and stuff
8:02 PM
this seems like the most scientifically based one tho
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who cares as long as the bot works for us
8:03 PM
and DID people's bot works too if they want to pk;new their brand new 2137th alter
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!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/2/2022 8:03 PM
are there any DID people here?
8:04 PM
actually that reminded me there was this guy on the dream cafe (Lucid dreaming server) who kept bashing tulpamancers for "wanting split personality disorder"
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He got banned multiple times
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for that
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cool, burn idiots like him
8:05 PM
making imaginary companions is not just for sick people
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!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/2/2022 8:07 PM
anyway this is why i'm not getting neurolink
8:07 PM
imagine what they could do to tulpas
8:07 PM
especially if they actually read your thoughts
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what could they do to them?
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!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/2/2022 8:08 PM
i'm scared they could just straight up delete them
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How?
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!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/2/2022 8:08 PM
maybe my paranoia is unjustifiable but I still wouldn't want no device recording all of my thoughts
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I killed chat
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1st degree
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💀
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what're you even talking about? A tulpa isn't something that can be killed, the only way something interacting with your brain could kill one is by causing catastrophic neural damage
8:18 PM
All a tulpa even is amounts to a sense of perspective change. Are you implying that neural links would somehow destroy our ability to understand who we are?
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Zen
All a tulpa even is amounts to a sense of perspective change. Are you implying that neural links would somehow destroy our ability to understand who we are?
!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/2/2022 8:18 PM
yes
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Your paranoia isn't just unjustifiable it's completely out of left field.
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!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/2/2022 8:18 PM
ok ok
8:19 PM
i don't like the idea of people spying on my brain anyway
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okay, so if the device did that it would cause the mental illness we call depersonalization disorder...
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and no one would ever wear it.
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Simple tbh.
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!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/2/2022 8:19 PM
also what do you think the reaction will be of me talking to myself and someone RESPONDING and me acting like a normal person and talking back
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all this needs is a mean person to get a hold of neurolink
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also not even your brain would be safe
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from spying
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You realize this would require you to be wearing electrodes on your head.
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!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/2/2022 8:21 PM
idk I forgot to take my adhd meds so everything I say is just completely stupid
8:21 PM
sorry
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Or for them to be installed under your skull invasively.
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Unfastened Belts 9/2/2022 8:21 PM
Is Neuralink already available btw? I can't even begin to imagine what that experience would feel like
8:21 PM
Definitely sounds scary to me
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Neuralink stuff already exists but it's not exactly capable of reading minds.
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!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/2/2022 8:22 PM
it'll probably be available (just making an educated guess) for the public sometimes around 2040
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It's a different thing to be able to consistently read visualizations for example than it is to see the brain trying to move an arm.
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!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/2/2022 8:22 PM
tats what I think
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Unfastened Belts 9/2/2022 8:22 PM
Oh so it's way off still
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But I have seen experiments specifically about mind-reading.
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!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/2/2022 8:23 PM
anyway back to the idea of tulpas, are false positives bad? A lot of people say they are good but also it doesn't seem like the best thing
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False positives in what sense?
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!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/2/2022 8:23 PM
making up responses from your tulpa and not being able to distinguish, and then thinking that its your tulpa speaking
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Why do you think that's false?
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!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/2/2022 8:24 PM
In my experience I think that my tulpa Joey can talk but definitely not as much as it would seem, since I often make up his responses
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Zen
Why do you think that's false?
!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/2/2022 8:24 PM
false positives are common
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You only think that because you decided it, not because it's objectively true.
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!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/2/2022 8:25 PM
oh
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ic
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i'm starting to sound like a lucid dreaming beginner, probably very annoying to people who have dealt with tulpas for years
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You wouldn't say that if you imagined batman in your head, and it felt a bit like you, that it was suddenly not batman you were imagining.
8:26 PM
Your experience and whether or not your engaging with thoughtforms aren't really the same thing.
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Zen
You wouldn't say that if you imagined batman in your head, and it felt a bit like you, that it was suddenly not batman you were imagining.
!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/2/2022 8:26 PM
That one guy who has a batman tulpa: 💀
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I got it
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its always Joey if it feels like Joey
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More than that, it's always Joey if you think it's joey.
8:27 PM
Feeling like them is irrelevant.
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I can feel like my tulpas and vice versa.
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Zen
More than that, it's always Joey if you think it's joey.
!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/2/2022 8:27 PM
😮
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That's what blending is. The experience of overlapping your sense of perspective or confusion about that sense.
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That sense isn't itself, the thoughtform, which is just an idea.
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!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/2/2022 8:28 PM
so i'm being irrelivant and worrying about nothing
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and I should be asking about this in #tulpa-questions
8:31 PM
Sorry
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shrugs This is an on-topic channel.
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!VoidyVoid! |34LD|
the one thing I dislike about tulpa communities is that I swear nobody can agree with each other
A long kiss goodnight 9/2/2022 8:48 PM
There is a lot of disagreement because not all advice works for all people and sometimes even contradictory advice can be helpful. I want to use vocality as an example- let's say one tulpamancer finds parroting to be the best technique for them. For them, parroting was a source of comfort that made it easier for them to force. However, for another tulpamancer, trying out parroting only worsens their anxiety because they can't help but feel it's fake. As this tulpamancer later discovers, they learn about parroting being impossible and they start to make quick progress. In general, even good advice can be bad advice for some- how effective advice is depends on the needs and context of that tulpa system. When you come across contradictory advice, I recommend picking whichever you like best and try that one. It's okay if it's the first advice you see or you can't put a finger on why. Worst case scenario, it isn't effective and you can try the other advice (edited)
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!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/2/2022 11:30 PM
Joey is very awesome 👍
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who?
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!VoidyVoid! |34LD|
the one thing I dislike about tulpa communities is that I swear nobody can agree with each other
that is the problem when the practice does not have uniform rules, nor a theoretical framework, everyone does what's work for them
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Sora
who?
!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/2/2022 11:32 PM
Joey
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Been alive for about a week
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Have you slept with 'em yet?
this 1
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it's your tulpa?
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and since people is different, not everything work for everyone
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Zen
Have you slept with 'em yet?
you absolutely embody the grail
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If I were an Hour from Flesh I would be chiefly Grail and Lantern nods
11:34 PM
Maybe a little Knock.
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Zen
Have you slept with 'em yet?
!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/3/2022 12:00 AM
Every night I guess. Oh no, I also shower with him too...
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That's lewd.
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!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/3/2022 12:03 AM
Funny how neither of us see it as weird because you know, he has to do everything with me
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Better that way, he's always with me at all times
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Never alone
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Do you also rub each other down as we do, tho?
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!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/3/2022 12:04 AM
What
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He doesn't exist in the real world tho...
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In visualizations, my dude. Kinetic imposition is something you can learn though.
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!VoidyVoid! |34LD| 9/3/2022 12:05 AM
That sounds fake-sciency
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It's a fancy term for learning to trigger physical hallucinations.
12:06 AM
It's a well-documented part of hypnosis.
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